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  • on 26.07.2010
  • at 09:15 AM
  • by Stephen Wilson

Missing the Northeast: neighborhood identities 15

Jul26

I think a lot about how drastic the difference seems to be between people from the Northeast and those from New Jersey in how they identify themselves.

Obviously, a lot of this has to do with the sheer difference in size between Philadelphia and most towns in New Jersey. People from the Northeast often distinguish themselves based on neighborhoods (or parishes, especially those who live in areas that are prominently Catholic; however, that is another column for another time), a point that can easily be proven by looking at the sidebar of this website.

Now, many New Jerseyans, on a broader note, may distinguish themselves by North and South Jersey. Many identify themselves by county. However, in the six years I have spent in New Jersey, I have found the main identification factor for N.J. residents to be the towns in which they grew up.

This is greatly exemplified by two of my South Jersey-bred coworkers who constantly needle each other for their respective hometowns, always trying to one-up each other on which town’s high schools, entertainment venues, residents and other factors are better.

This all happens as I look on in amazement, because no two parts of the Northeast, let alone Philadelphia as a whole, are the same.

Neighborhood Pride vs. Town Pride

Although I have to say that I am a big fan of many towns in New Jersey, especially the ones in which I have lived, and see why so many residents stand by their town first and foremost, I have to enact my bias to vouch for neighborhood pride.

In all, it makes for a more multidimensional understanding of Philadelphia. I have spoken with many people (most from New Jersey) who, upon hearing that I am from Philadelphia, have told me they are not a big fan of the city.

However, most of these people have never been anywhere in the city other than South Street or to the stadiums in South Philadelphia. Many are blown away when I explain to them how the Northeast basically feels like a city in itself. And they’ve definitely never been anywhere near the Modena Park/Chalfont area, my place of residence for the first 18 years of my life and a place in which I have a considerable amount of pride.

My Familiarity with the Northeast Neighborhoods

Now, given that I actually didn’t acquire my driver’s license until approximately a month before I left for college in New Jersey and never really used SEPTA while growing up, I really never spent enough of my time getting to know the neighborhoods in the Northeast.

In fact, other than having a few friends from high school sprinkled throughout the Parkwood, Mayfair and Wissinoming areas, the only method I had for growing accustomed to the various neighborhoods was by playing sports for traveling teams.

For instance, I could and probably still can identify certain neighborhoods, such as Torresdale and Holmesburg, throughout the Northeast by their baseball fields. I even used to harbor occasional disdain for certain neighborhoods simply because their teams used to demolish us.

Alas, though, my lack of any significant amount of athletic abilities prevented me from making any more than two traveling teams. Therefore, my neighborhood education adventures were drastically short-lived.

Increasing Pride from a Distance

In the last few years, though, as I seem to move farther and farther away from the Northeast, my desire to want to learn more about and increase my pride in the area where I grew up has slowly turned into guilt for not having taken more advantage of this great area, as well as the city as a whole.

To remedy this, I have tried a few different things.

First, whenever I have been home and driving around recently, I have been paying greater attention to important street signs and highway exits, especially those off  I-95 and the Boulevard, to make sure my both my neighborhood and Northeast pride is not just all talk and no walk.

Nothing is more embarrassing than talking up the Northeast to somebody and then not properly being able to give directions to Tacony — which I have done before.

Second, whenever anybody asks a good place to check out in Philadelphia, I usually try to lead into my suggestions with a few local points of reference. For instance, if people say that they have heard that Pat’s or Geno’s is overrated, I tell them to check out Steve’s Prince of Steaks just outside Normandy.

If people are looking to do some cheap shopping (and also do a fair amount of walking), I tell them to check out the Franklin Mills Mall at least once, simply to say they have.

Finally, it hasn’t hurt to write a column for a website that focuses completely on reporting news and information regarding the neighborhoods in which we live, and doubtless maintain a hefty amount of pride.

Missing the Northeast is a column written by Stephen Wilson, a former Northeast resident who moved to New Jersey for work. You can read his column on the last Monday of every month.

  • Lisa

    I grew up in Wissinoming, back in the day when it was a nice place to live, and I lived in Tacony, Mayfair, and Holmesburg during the first two decades of married life. Now I live in Pennsauken/Merchantville, and I don’t go to Philly for any reason other than to see my doctor. There is not much to miss about the ever-worsening, crime-ridden, filthy city, other than a few local eateries, such as Seafood Bay, in Holmesburg. I pray that I never have to live there again. The good old days of NE Philly are gone, replaced by crime, lowlifes, and Section 8 housing.
    No thanks.

  • germantowner

    You claim ‘northeast pride’ and then reference the steve’s steaks on the boulevard. This article would be better appreciated on a website for new jerseyans.

  • Steve

    Hey germantowner,

    I appreciate the feedback. Steve’s Prince of Steaks is in the Northeast, almost right down the street from where I grew up, right in my neighborhood. It’s on the very tip of the Northeast, but then again, that is where I grew up.

    In this column, I say that I am looking forward to increasing my familiarity with the neighborhoods, although I don’t live here anymore. If you have any suggestions, I gladly welcome them.

    Thanks again,
    Steve

  • http://www.neastphilly.com Dunlap

    Hey Lisa,
    Please do all of us Northeast people a favor and stay in New Jersey! I would suggest moving your doctor over there as well. Your blind statements about Mayfair and Tacony mimic the sentiments of most New Jersey folk who watch the news and create opinions based on nonsense. Maybe some neighborhoods have taken a turn for the worse but to label the Northeast a “ever-worsening, crime-ridden, filthy city” is baseless and uneducated. Enjoy the high property taxes and terrible driving in New Jersey and do us all a favor and keep your opinions to yourself. Next time you take a trip to your doctor’s office try and look around to see the pride that us Northeasterns have, thats if you can lower your nose enough to see it.

  • Joe Shmoe

    Hey Dunlap – take your rose colored glasses and look around. Lisa is right in that the Northeast, especially the neighborhoods she mentions, are NOT what they once were. Crime, drugs and other quality of life problems have made it bad.

  • http://www.neastphilly.com Dunlap

    Hey Joe Shmoe – The hard working people of Mayfair and Holmesburg are very thankful that your worried about our “quality of life.” I agree there is more crime now than their was in the 1960′s but you can still walk through all of these neighborhoods and not fear for your life amongst the “lowlifes and Section 8 housing.” Every neighborhood has its problem areas but for the most part Mayfair and Holmesburg are still a very strong and proud community. Your opinion along with Lisa’s depict a deeply exaggerated view of what the Northeast has become. To be honest, I shouldn’t expect an outsider to realize that.

  • Daddy Tucker

    Dunlap, I couldnt agree more with you. Its clowns like Lisa and Joe Shmoe we dont want in mayfair anyways. Either they lived here before, were afraid of a little culture moving into the area (i.e. those scary non white people!) because you were raised in such a close minded household and couldnt see people for who they were beyond skin color, and sold their house and sold out on the neighborhood (good, like i said, we dont want your type here anyways). Or you never lived here and you have no idea what you are talking about. So stop hating on the northeast, and we will continue to produce some of the most well rounded, unsheltered and brightest minds into the workforce and society, while your jersey people continue to come to OUR stadiums and recreational sites and cause havoc and give US a bad name.

  • 2pumpChump

    Dear lisa and joe schmoe,
    There is 3 reasons why Philadelphia (any neighborhood) is better then New Jersey. 1. You can make a left hand turn without going around some stupid friggin jug handle adding on 15 minutes to your drive, 2. The water you drink out of the faucet taste normal and doesnt taste like some liqiud coming out of a dogs bladder, and 3. We actually have 4 competitive professional sports teams that win championships, when all you have to look foreward too is going to roger wilco and saving 4 bucks on a 30 pack of your choice of beverage.
    Sincerely,
    2pumpChump

  • Joe Adams

    Igrew up in NE Philly and lived in Wissinoming when I moved to Cinnaminson NJ (South Jersey)when I was 16. I attended Fr. Judge HS so I had to travel aabit to get there and back. Since I spent 20 years in the AF and 27Yrs in Eastern North Dakota. I look at my years in Philly as training Ground to face the world and its changes. I have ben through the Snows of Alaska and the Typhons of Okinawa, Japan. Also 2 Natural Disasters in ND. Flood and Home hit by a Tornado. We raelly like the wide open spaces of rural Farm country but some times miss the hustel and bussel of the City Machine. I am proud of my Heritage and upbringing in Philadelphia and brag about it all the time. Thanks for listening to all.

  • Joe Shmoe

    hey daddy trucker – if you call pigs living in section 8 a little culture then either you are a moron or in denial.
    Lastly to dunlap and others, I do not live in Jersey and my Father still lives in Frankford which is has turned into a sewer thanks to section 8. Mayfair and tacony are on their way. And I hope you like the animals that go to the skating rink on Saturdays and tear up the neighborhood when they are let out around midnight.

  • 2pumpChump

    where do you live joe shmoe? You continue to downgrade other neighborhoods but have yet to mention yours? If i had to guess, you probably live in some suburb where your wife has you around a dog leash and you hate your life.

  • Joe shmoe

    me? I moved out of northwood when I saw that the bleeding hears were allowing section 8 pigs ooops I mean “culture” into the area.

  • 2pumpchump

    i didnt ask where you lived before. i asked where do you live now that is so great?

  • 2pumpchump

    and dunlap is s clownboy

  • http://www.axcidental.net/ NiKKi

    It’s funny I find this now (this is your former neighbor). When I lived in Florida it was the first time I was proud to say where I was from…always said the neighborhood and the city. It gave me a bigger appreciation living away from home to realize how amazing NE Philly was.

    (My roomates use to tease me for watching all Philly related shows in Florida just because I missed it so much lol)

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